People Need To Chill the Fuck Out With Calling Pineda Deal a Bust
The Wall Street Journal-Michael Pineda, the prized young pitcher whose acquisition defined the Yankees’ winter, has a tear in the labrum of his pitching shoulder and will require season-ending surgery. Pineda, 23, will undergo arthroscopic surgery Tuesday and faces a 12-month recovery. There is no guarantee that he will ever return to being the fireballer the Yankees thought they had acquired at great cost this January. ”I’m devastated,” Cashman said. “There’s obviously always risk involving pitchers, but obviously this was a big move that I pursued this winter.” That big move came when Cashman gambled his can’t-miss top prospect, the slugging catcher Jesus Montero, for Pineda, a 6-foot-7 flamethrower from the Dominican Republic who became an All Star in his 2011 rookie season.
Listen, there is nothing good about this Pineda situation so there’s no point in sugar coating it. Losing him for a year is awful and yes, there is no guarantee that he’ll ever be the same fireballer he was in Seattle. With that being said, the guy is 23 fucking years old. Do you know how young 23 is? 2 years removed from his first legal beer and Yankee fans are ready to take Seabiscuit out back and put a gun to his head. He’s young and there are several pitchers that you may have heard of who have come back from this type of injury. Curt Schilling and Chris Carpenter both had the surgery in 1995 and 2002 respectively, and both came back to help their team win multiple championships. Oh and this Roger Clemens guy had it in 1985 and I think things turned out pretty well for him. Steroids or not, the guy won championships, redefined pitching, and killed his role in Kingpin, all after his labrum injury. Again, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING GOOD ABOUT THIS SITUATION. I’m not saying Pineda is guaranteed to come back as the ace Yankee fans hoped for when they traded Jesus Montero, but I’m not ready to say his career has been Munson’d yet either. It gets a little ridiculous when I get 50 people screaming “trade backs” at me like we’re swapping baseball cards. 23, people… 23.
And I love how everybody is coming down on Cashman for this one. Like the guy hasn’t built a dynasty over the past decade and a half. “Oh great, Cashman pulled another Pavano.” First of all, the Pavano situation is not even in the same ballpark as this. Pavano missed time for a “bruised buttocks” in a 2006 spring training game… Pineda’s shoulder is falling off his body. There is no similarity between the two. But back to Cashman. If anybody in the stock market could deliver Brian Cashman’s success rate, they’d be viewed as a God, and would probably be investigated for insider trading. Baseball’s Gordon Gecko has given Yankee fans the most consistent franchise in perhaps the history of sports over the last 15 years. Not to mention, that kid Jose Campos that the Yankees also got back in the Pineda deal is 3-0 with a 1.23 in the minors. The fact that Yankee fans ask for his Cashman’s head when one of his decisions is in question is what makes the rest of the league’s view us as spoiled, incompetent assholes.
P.S.- Wait, forget everything I just said. Surgery is being performed by the Mets team physician. Kid’s done. BUST




this pineda guy’s yankees career is eerily similar to that of carl pavano
Good to see between delivering “Big Sausage Pizza” Strasser is writing tomes no one reads. Who was your favorite author on this site before you joined? Jerry Thorton?
The problem with this fucker is that he’s a fat, lazy piece of shit who came to camp out of shape and then tore his labrum trying to make up for the fact that he’s a fat lazy piece of shit.
fuck the yankees, go celtics!
this pineda guy reminds me of carl pavano you fuckin d bag. and he is fat
Montero never had a spot anyway. He can’t catch and we need a free-flowing DH spot. It sucks he’s out for the year but it was still a good deal with the potential to pay big dividends. Pineda is the same age as me?? Fuck…
Im a huge yankee fan and you’re so fucking wrong about this. First of all Cashman is so overrated, he is able to hide his mistakes with money (I hate the money argument but it has its merits when it comes to GM IQ). If he was in any small market he wouldve been canned years ago. Those dynasty teams were Gene Michaels doing and any Yankee fan will admit that. That being said Cashman isn’t as bad as people are saying and I don’t think he should be fired. But stop acting like he is some genius GM he is second tier at best.
Also I think most of the fanbase is pissed at Pineda and down on him because he came to camp 20lbs higher than his playing weight. He wasnt a small guy to begin with. Between coming out of shape and throwing high 80′s and getting rocked all spring I was down on him to begin with. Now that hes out for a whole year I am close to done. I am not gonna give up on him yet but next year he better come back throwing fire or the fan base will turn on him. That’s a guarantee.
Strasser = Torn Labia
jesus dromanzo- you can’t handle 2 paragrpahs? Thornton writes book reports. Anyways, Montero was useless for NY and Noesi was too. Jose Campos is pithcing his way into a top 30 prospect though and could end up being better than Pineda was ever expected to be so the Yankees didn’t butcher this deal by any means.
Montero never had a spot? Just like David Ortiz and Edgar Martinez never had a spot? Get a clue. Fucking Eduardo Nunez DH’ed at one point this year. NOONEY!
If a dude can hit, the team will find a spot for you. Look at the Angels and Mark Trumbo right now. Dude hit 30 bombs last year as the 1B and they sign Pujols in the off-season. Problem? Not at all. He’s been put at 1B, 3B, LF, RF, DH because he can flat out hit.
pizza bagel this is last post of yours ill read.. you fucking suck..
Baseballs Gordon gecko? Dude theres funny and then theres people that try and be funny, and then theres people that are flat out stupid.. Cashman did some job making superstars from other systems the highest paid players at their respective postion.. Over the past 25 years the yankees success is a direct result of the steinbreners deep pockets… your writing whiney and annoying!!! seriously you still have time you start start thinking of other careers..Ill be skiping your posts from now on which = less revenue for the stool… ohh, btw your a dope
Blue Jays might consider sending the Yankees Dustin McGowan for Pineda.