Should Tom Coughlin Be Fired If The Giants Miss The Playoffs?
NY Post – The general manager is on record saying he believes this roster has more talent than the one that won the Super Bowl three years ago. The co-owner who runs the team is on record as not being a big proponent of late-season collapses or debacle-type losses. Tom Coughlin, get thee to the playoffs. There is no reason or excuse for the Giants falling short. They are more than healthy enough, certainly talented enough and don’t have to rely on anyone else to get where they must go. It is all there, set up for the Giants, and if this coaching regime is to stay together, it has to get it done. Win Sunday in Green Bay, the playoff ticket is punched, the first goal is achieved and no one goes anywhere. This is not about John Mara already deciding that Coughlin must make it to the postseason to gain a contract extension (he has one year remaining). A coach needs to save his job only when there is someone out there trying to take it away. Mara knows what sloppy coaching and dysfunctional teams look like and he sees none of that with Coughlin in charge. Mara prefers continuity over commotion. Mara, unlike many other owners, understands what an upheaval it is to fire one coaching staff and bring in another and realizes such drama only should be foisted on an organization out of complete necessity. But there is also the embarrassment of last year’s tank-job — a late-season demise that would have ousted a less-proven coaching regime — that cannot be forgotten.
If the Giants leave Green Bay having secured a playoff berth, the grand theme will be one of rebirth and resiliency, how they purged the Eagles demons, how Coughlin shepherded the flock with his steely-eyed determination. If the Giants depart needing to beat the Redskins in the regular-season finale and then must rely on help to get in, it could be a long, lonely winter.
Pretty good article by Paul Schwartz in the Post this morning. Basically brings up the age old question for a team that doesn’t meet expectations: is the failure bad enough to do a complete coaching staff overhaul despite the drama it brings? For me it’s like 75-25 he should stay. I hate firing coaches just for the sake of firing. Dumbass casual fans see their team lose a few big games or barely miss the playoffs one season and start calling into radio stations saying they want the coach’s head blah blah. Like you’re just switching out your tires or changing your shirt or something. Kick out the coach and you kick out the system, the style, and a whole way of operating that the players have gotten used to. But on the other hand it’s hard to ignore some of the disappointments of the past 2 seasons. Again I fully expect the Giants to beat the Packers this weekend and make some noise in the playoffs. But if for some reason they don’t this would be the 2nd year in a row that was a huge disappointment despite big talent. The Eagles loss can be seen as a fluke but missing the playoffs again after ending last season 8-8 and playing uninspired and getting blown out would be a lot bigger deal.
When it comes down to it the main reason you fire a coach is when the players stop playing for him. Despite all the shit we hear about how tough he is and how much of an asshole he is that has never been the case with the Giants. They always play hard. They didn’t give up Sunday they just got flat out whooped in the 4th quarter. They always compete. But lately, they don’t win when it matters. And when all the work doesn’t translate to wins in the postseason a few years in a row 9 times out of 10 the heat goes on the coach. Should it in this case?
What do the Stoolie Giants fans think? Do you want to see a change at the top or is the Coughlin way the right way? 1 for Go and 10 for Stay.
(861 votes, average: 6.77 out of 10)
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PS – For everyone who thinks Cowher is the second coming of God and should just be handed any team he wants take a look at these numbers
Coughlin: 15 seasons – 8/(9?) playoff appearances – 5 division titles – Super Bowl/(2 Super Bowls?)
Cowher: 15 seasons – 10 playoff appearances – 8 division titles – Super Bowl
And 7 of those Coughlin seasons were with an expansion team that took him only 2 years to get to the playoffs.
coughlin is a good coach. those are very hard to find. i see both sides of the argument but I think you keep him.
well written. but in my opinion its at least 50-50. true hes got a great track record but after 2 seasons like this it’s just gotta change. they aren’t finishers with Coughlin anymore.
having said that they will make the playoffs
if it’s true that he kicked dodge out of the locker room while he was crying…KEEP HIM! that’s a fucking man right there!
only reason there is heat on him is that ny media you love so much. he’s a solid coach.
FIRE EVERYBODY!!!!! 1 FOR EVERYONE!
Coughlins biggest mistake last year was hiring Sheridan. But if you remember he really wanted Dom Capers and the giants couldnt sign him. sheridan was the only other option that would keep their system in place
time for a change. just gotta happen. thats eagles loss is going to linger and they will lose to packers
coughlin is a good coach, make the playoffs and keep him
cowher is realllll tough to turn away from though, he is the man. I say the giants just win the super bowl, tom retires on top and we bring in bill cowher to take over
The co-owner who runs the team is on record as not being a big proponent of late-season collapses or debacle-type losses…No shit! I doubt you’ll find many people who are big proponents of debacle type losses.
keep the coach, fire the fans. the fans already cost the yankees cliff lee and have devalued the super bowl win by considering it more of a pats choke-job than a deserved victory for the giants. get some decent fans in house and maybe the players will get fired up to play for them again.
coughlin seems like a above average coach. Seems like his OC, Special Teams coach and quarterback are sub-par.
Not sure if Coughlin’s players fear him or respect him. Not exactly a “player’s coach.”
All-around coaching in 4th quarter last week was beyond dismal, but you can’t let one half of a quarter dictate multiple years of success.
YES! bring in Rex’s brother as a head coach. i hear him & his old lady have some crazy ass fetish vids too! two bro’s under same new jersey roof coaching “new yorks” nfl teams sounds like it could be fun.
jpf304 – Dodge said none of that happened this morning on WFAN
And for those people wanting Cowher, what exactly has he done to deserve what would be the biggest coaching vacancy? Winning the wost SB of all time?
I like Cowher, and should things get sour, I’d like to have him since he’d be the best available, but the guy has pretty crappy track record when comparing him to the praise he gets. He’s choked a ton in his career.
Coughlin isn’t the problem. The team is handicapped by the strange decision to give $100M to a $20M Quarterback. Expectations should be set accordingly as long as Eli is giving away 2-3 games a year. Find a QB that doesn’t throw crippling game ending picks and pay him accordingly. Somewhere Coughlin is nodding his head in agreement
I was just about to write “great post by Scott” and noticed it was KMarko. You’re right on, nearly all teams ahve ebbs and flows, Coughlin has been great, you fuckers were close to running him out of town before he won the SB last time.
I hate to be another obnoxious Boston fan, but looking at Coughlin really does make Belechick even more impressive. Coughlin has been a great coach but has had his down years, Pats ahve had very few down years. Last year was the worst in 10 years and there was still a home playoff game.
4Q2, really dude? Name available QB’s better than Eli. The guy’s having a decent year besides the shitty INT’s, and has improved every year. He Won a SB (he had an amazing playoffs in 07), and has turned the once “shakies WR corps in football” to 2 pro bowlers (I think Nicks will still get in this year).
The fact that he’s in NY is why people think he isn’t a top 10 QB. You think Phillip Rivers would survive in NY? I sure don’t.
Theres Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees then the rest. And by the rest I mean Eli, Rivers, Ben, Vick (ill wait until after he gets paid to see how that goes), Ryan, Rodgers, Flacco and Romo.
If you don’t appreciate what Eli brings to the table, than you should find another team.
fire gilbride not coughlin…..wtf was that shit throwing on first and second down at the end of the game…..
YEA HE SHOULD BE FIRED. AND NEW YORK SPORTS TEAMS SHOULD RELOCATE TO A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN WIN GAMES AND NOT PLAY IN FRONT OF A BUNCH OF FAGGOT FANS LIKE ALL YOU NEW YORKERS ARE! SUCK1
old titties, you forgot schaub. fuck the giants, cower’s going to houston